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[原创] 关于歧视 仔细想想的话 其实也是有一定道理的 (写给刚到异地的人)

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上个礼拜认识了一个刚来东京2年的留学生 因为都比较喜欢ACG 所以也聊了很久 听他所说 来到日本最大的感触莫过于受歧视
跟我说又要"反日"又要"抵制日本"的 难道是我已经麻木了么 仔细想想自己以前也有过类似的感觉 时间长了 再加上受"歧视"多了
回过头来再看 其实以前自己眼里的"歧视"也并非真正意义上的歧视经常会觉得自己受到歧视的朋友 其实可以改变一下自己的心态
之所以会有这种心理 我觉得和内心一定程度的自卑感有关 也许有些人不承认举个简单的例子 当你看到别人大手大脚的花钱
身上穿着高档名牌的衣服的时候 嫉妒和自卑的心里是很正常的现象 毕竟这也是人类的感情之一 当你身处异地的时候
可能这种感觉会更突出一些 不过我觉得 换一种心态来看待的话 至少可以让自己活的更轻松一些
或者说 当你更多的融入了你周围的社会和环境时 你会发现这种心情会逐渐的减少 至少我是这么感受的 也可能有人觉得是麻木了
人和人接触难免会有一些碰撞 难道每一次和外国人发生的碰撞都是因为歧视所引起的么?
如果总带着这样的心里去和别人接触的话 我想很难去融入一个异地的环境中去吧 人应该学会去适应周围的环境
毕竟体验生活也是一种乐趣嘛 整天嚷嚷反日 抵制日货的行为 对于一个有好的日本人来说 不也是一种歧视么
在国内生活的人 因为生活环境和所收的影响 有时候并不能理性的去看待国家与国家之间的问题 带着这种心态生活的话
我想说 不管你在国外待多少年 到头来受罪的还是自己 太敏感 太激进只是一种幼稚的表现罢了 生活中需要热血 不过要看在哪方面了


再有关于"无差别歧视" 就是根本意义上的歧视 一部分可能是由于贫富差距所引起的 还有一部分我觉得全都是受歧视方自己造成的
如果是纯粹因为贫富差距的话 貌似没有什么讨论意义了 选择性屏蔽好了 我想说的是另一方面
之所以说是由受歧视方自己所造成的 很多时候一个人并不只是单纯的所代表你自己
人对于未知事物会产生一种恐惧感 要想排除这种恐惧感 就要把未知事物转换为已知事物 于是就有了
"中国人" "日本人" "美国人" "英国人" "华人" 甚至"北京人" "上海人"这样的概念 (并不是单纯的地理意义)
什么是中国人?中国人应该是什么样?什么性格?如何处理问题?大部分还都是因人所异的
但是由于对于外国人来说"中国人"是一个未知事物 他们在和中国人解除的时候 会有一定程度的恐慌感
于是他们就要把中国人划分在一个范围(反过来我们也一样) 于是在互相的接触中 就会走入一个误区
"原来中国人是这样的" "原来中国人是这种性格" "原来中国人这样看问题 处理事情" 再加上在外华人犯罪率直线上升
自然就给对方留下了一个不好的印象 比如发生了抢劫事件 对方会觉得中国人危险 发生了欺骗事件 会觉得中国人不守信 等
以导致 其他人的一些言行举止会影响到 别人和我们的接触 其实这些都是很正常的现象 可以想想自己在接触外国人的时候又是什么样
当你和对方接触时间长了 对方会抛弃以前对"中国人"的看法 而因为你的言行 对"中国人"产生一种新的认识


我现在很少会遇到会让自己感到"受歧视"的事情了 我想和自己的心态还是有关系的 也可能是出来时间长了麻木了
我所说的关于歧视是有一定道理的意思 并不是说在对歧视加以肯定 只是想换一个角度考虑一下之所以产生歧视的原因(无差别不算)
估计在海外待时间长了的人 都没啥心情看我在这里废话 那就给出道异地的人看看好了 希望大家都能开心
转换一下自己看问题的角度和心态 你会活的更开心 呵呵 (长文说教 抱歉了)


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只看该作者 21楼 发表于: 2008-03-31
The minority cannot get the same opportunity as the majority in the human society.
Even if we think ourselves more advanced than the other animal, we are still sharing the similar characteristic as the other animals, that we will identify ourselves as different groups by specific appearances and cultures; those groups are relatively exclusive. We are still trying to find a way to hold the diversity of peoples and cultures in society, but we have not been successful completely yet.

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只看该作者 20楼 发表于: 2008-03-29
US slavery system is killed at lincoln time. it has nothing to do with MLK. get the fact right is very importamt.
MLK is the most famous aganist social stereotype for the black ppl, but he is not the first one and not even the one started the movement. search Rosa Parks for that. dont ever underestimate power of the normal ppl.
education doesnt make ppl less ignorant. if it's the case, probably all the ppl here r still slaves.
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只看该作者 19楼 发表于: 2008-03-29
LOL u r so funny
这年头自以为是的人太多了

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imperial china = 封建制度的中国。。也就是说清朝和以前 [/KH] [/KH]
真费劲。。。
你根本没读懂我说的什么……


they were uneducated... [/KH] [/KH]
not stupid, but ignorant


I'm done talking to you. I've lost all respect for you as a human being. If you think you are right, find a black guy and tell him the exactly same thing you said here.

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你该更多的亲身体验你所要评论的东西~

而不是仅仅从西方媒体上盗版~

即使在国内,只要想完全可以看到所谓的自由之声~

虽然相比西方不够民众,但是用Imperial 形容~也是过了~

imperial china = 封建制度的中国。。也就是说清朝和以前 [/KH] [/KH]
真费劲。。。
你根本没读懂我说的什么……

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OMG..."most Blacks in slavery didn't think much about it till Martin Luther King Jr. came along"...Either you are a racism fanaticist or you just think blacks are stupid (which still makes you a racist). Not even on Youtube have I seen such blatant racism talk.

they were uneducated... [/KH] [/KH]
not stupid, but ignorant

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wtf.. when did I say it's justified? = =
I was merely stating a fact.
Strong taking advantage of the weak.. Personally I think it's wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that most Blacks in slavery didn't think much about it till Martin Luther King Jr. came along. It was just their way of life.
The same thing happened in Tibet and the rest of Imperial China too
Though ppl weren't happy living as slaves, they'd never think it's wrong cauz they're just used to it.

some ppl on this forum are too opinionated...


你该更多的亲身体验你所要评论的东西~

而不是仅仅从西方媒体上盗版~

即使在国内,只要想完全可以看到所谓的自由之声~

虽然相比西方不够民众,但是用Imperial 形容~也是过了~

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只看该作者 15楼 发表于: 2008-03-28
To Eminem:

I don't quite agree with you, or maybe I don't agree with everything you said. Here is why. At the present time we see more and more blacks go into sports, entertainment, and politics, they are making bigger impacts everyday. Where are all the Asains? Doing research as a team leader but not a professor, working in a business firm under a YT, and what else? True we are making more money than blacks, or maybe even YTs, but who gives a shit? If you don't fight for your rights, if you just sit there and do nothing, if all you care about is money but having no interest in politics, then I think all the Asian Americans are fked.

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只看该作者 14楼 发表于: 2008-03-28
People are just used to being slaves...are you even listening to (or reading) what you are saying right now?

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but that doesn't change the fact that most Blacks in slavery didn't think much about it till Martin Luther King Jr. came along. It was just their way of life.
The same thing happened in Tibet and the rest of Imperial China too
Though ppl weren't happy living as slaves, they'd never think it's wrong cauz they're just used to it.

some ppl on this forum are too opinionated...


OMG..."most Blacks in slavery didn't think much about it till Martin Luther King Jr. came along"...Either you are a racism fanaticist or you just think blacks are stupid (which still makes you a racist). Not even on Youtube have I seen such blatant racism talk.

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wtf.. when did I say it's justified? = =
I was merely stating a fact.
Strong taking advantage of the weak.. Personally I think it's wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that most Blacks in slavery didn't think much about it till Martin Luther King Jr. came along. It was just their way of life.
The same thing happened in Tibet and the rest of Imperial China too
Though ppl weren't happy living as slaves, they'd never think it's wrong cauz they're just used to it.

some ppl on this forum are too opinionated...

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只看该作者 11楼 发表于: 2008-03-28
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歧视这个词的意思很复杂。。
几十年前美国的黑奴、还有世界上所有的奴隶制社会都是strong taking advantage of the weak
而现在人对歧视的理解应该是因为肤色、性别、国籍、性取向被judged negatively
人活在世界上就不可能不被"judge"~~ 只要见人,别人每时每刻都会根据你的外表judge你,也有人会根据性格、社会地位等等因素judge你
而被judge就是被歧视么? 有时候还会有别的因素..
but when a trait is assotiated with a group of people.. then it becomes stereotyping
Thus, judging someone based on the "group" he/she belongs to is discriminating. Judging based on individual traits is purely personal


话说 原创应该置顶+奖励。。


Basically what you are saying is that slavery is justified because it's "trong taking advantage of the weak". I think some people on this forum are really whitewashed.

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只看该作者 10楼 发表于: 2008-03-28
无所谓啦。。。。反正我要考试也不急~~~~~话说晴那儿现在也放假么?

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好~~~~~但是我好像不能奖励噢~~~~~~~~

啊?!难道还没转正?晕阿。。。。。。。。
明明是代替多拉当苦力 他却把这事儿忘了。。 = =

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只看该作者 8楼 发表于: 2008-03-27
自信才能自强!

我觉得JP的收入好像是同等大陆的8倍耶.所以他们的东西也就贵那么8倍左右...
TW我觉得好像就是3倍吧..感觉而已
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